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 Feb 10 2006, 10:09 PM
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Taking over the world, one pint at a time.  Group: Gold Supporter Posts: 12,638 Joined: 24-April 03 From: Cherry Hill, NJ Member No.: 1,544 Chapter: Northeast   |
The other thing that I was just thinking about was adapting the Conti PCM to the Taurus PATS module...I'm wondering if they are similar/the same, and if you can just "plug and play" with the PCM/PATS module (provided the Ford dealer will program it for you).
Otherwise, I assume you'd need to get a PATS disable module, like you would use with a remote start system. JR |
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Feb 10 2006, 10:33 PM
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All work and no play makes me a dull boy!!  Group: Select Supporter Posts: 4,194 Joined: 1-November 02 From: Chatham, Ontario Member No.: 142 Chapter: Eastern Canada Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1990 Engine: 3.0 OHV (Vulcan) 
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Well, the Continental block is drilled differently for the AX4N bell housing, hower i am not sure i read anywhere if the RWD blocks are drilled for FWD mounts and RWD mounts... However, you dont even need the cobra block, AFIK everthing from the Cobra 4.6 (dohc i am assuming) will bolt up to this engine... a very large interchange on parts for the DOHC.
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Feb 10 2006, 10:39 PM
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i love ohio Group: Members Posts: 1,105 Joined: 22-January 03 From: ottawa canada Member No.: 921 Car: Mercury Sable Year: 1995 Engine: 3.0 OHV (Vulcan)
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dont forget jason about my transmission???
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Feb 10 2006, 10:41 PM
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 Group: Platinum Supporter Posts: 1,234 Joined: 31-July 04 From: cheektowaga NY Member No.: 4,336 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1994 Engine: 3.2 Yamaha |
ok mister i'm idling at 70mph its so true though that is what makes it funny
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Feb 10 2006, 10:44 PM
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Taking over the world, one pint at a time. Group: Gold Supporter Posts: 12,638 Joined: 24-April 03 From: Cherry Hill, NJ Member No.: 1,544 Chapter: Northeast |
Is the Conti block iron or aluminum? The 2003-2004 Cobra block was cast iron...
JR |
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Feb 10 2006, 11:03 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 3-May 03 From: Apalachin, N.Y. - U.S.A. Member No.: 1,604 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1998 Engine: 3.0 OHV (Vulcan) |
Check THIS out : http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D3895DB...69BEA2A5D90.htm Another AMAZING swap!!!
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Feb 10 2006, 11:06 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 255 Joined: 11-January 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 3,029 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1997 Engine: 3.0 OHV (Vulcan) |
Here's a page with the whole life story of the 4.6L. Warning: its from Wikipedia. Wikipedia 4.6L page
Wiki says that the DOHC 4.6L is aluminum. |
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Feb 10 2006, 11:08 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 255 Joined: 11-January 04 From: Nashville, TN Member No.: 3,029 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1997 Engine: 3.0 OHV (Vulcan) |
THAT IS F...ING RIDICULOUS!!!!  I guess anything is possible after seeing that.
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Feb 10 2006, 11:10 PM
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All work and no play makes me a dull boy!! Group: Select Supporter Posts: 4,194 Joined: 1-November 02 From: Chatham, Ontario Member No.: 142 Chapter: Eastern Canada Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1990 Engine: 3.0 OHV (Vulcan)
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true... but that would have been impossible to maintain a stock appearance... if you wanna gut any car and rebuild it, of course you can put anything in it...
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Feb 10 2006, 11:22 PM
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Whoever controls the media, controls the mind. Group: Members Posts: 554 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Grand Rapids, Michigan Member No.: 6,003 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1997 Engine: 3.0 OHV (Vulcan) |
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Feb 10 2006, 11:25 PM
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NorthEast President  Group: Premium Supporter Posts: 3,895 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Belchertown, Mass Member No.: 3,627  Chapter: Northeast Car: Ford Taurus Year: 2004 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec)
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I appologize for my statement poking fun at the so called "swap"
it's absolutely amazing   
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Feb 10 2006, 11:29 PM
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Taking over the world, one pint at a time. Group: Gold Supporter Posts: 12,638 Joined: 24-April 03 From: Cherry Hill, NJ Member No.: 1,544 Chapter: Northeast |
According to this site on the Wikipedia, the 96-2001 Cobra blocks were aluminum, and the 2003-2004 blocks were cast iron.
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Feb 11 2006, 05:42 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 6-October 03 Member No.: 2,471 |
Holy Crap was looking on Ebay for Lincoln Continental engines. you wont believe the cheap prices, shoot 400$ for engine total and some cheaper, for 400$ this would be the ultimate upgrade regarded you have the time
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Feb 11 2006, 07:12 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 10-February 05 Member No.: 5,668 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 2000 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec) |
there was a 350 powered CRX that won the burnout contast at nopi. AND it retained the stock look. Stock hood closed and everything. I have also seen a 80s golf with a Northstar motor on the intarweb. That was crazy right there. |
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Feb 11 2006, 10:08 AM
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Group: Platinum Supporter Posts: 8,842 Joined: 5-November 02 From: Burnet, TX Member No.: 238 Chapter: Southern Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1999 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec)
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that is corrrect. The '03 Cobra's (Terminator) got cast iron blocks to increase strength when the blower was added. |
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Feb 11 2006, 10:27 AM
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The voices in my head don't like you Group: Select Supporter Posts: 6,465 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Tulsa,OK Member No.: 2,765 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 2000 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec) |
Thats a good man right there. There are some other people here that should be doing it also. Mike 
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Feb 11 2006, 11:25 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 11-February 06 From: Royal Oak, MI Member No.: 8,088 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1997 Engine: 3.4 Yamaha V8 |
So to do this swap, can I just replace the engine in the stock subframe since theyre the same? OR do I have to get the whole front end/engine/trans/subframe from the conti? Any help would be great....im in need of a car and would LOVE to do this
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Feb 11 2006, 12:52 PM
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Group: BANNED MEMBER Posts: 2,000 Joined: 18-December 04 From: N'awlins Louisiana Member No.: 5,296 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1997 Engine: 3.4 Yamaha V8 |
I don't think anyone should be eating crow at this point, I still wanna see it run with air conditioning and ALL electronics functional before I say it has been done, I can take a PSD 7.3 and stuff it into a Jeep but will it actually pull the vehicle, will you have all the creature comforts such as air conditioning, will it handle properly, will it be able to pass a safety inspection for on the road use or will it wind up being a track only car? Yes the subrame is the same, but that's just showing the steel can support it, once all is said and done and this car can be street legal, then I'll say it was a success. Otherwise, a good story for a track car but completely useless for any other purpose. The 3.4 SHO engine leaves nearly NO room for any type of repairs, and this 4.6 takes any of that away absolutely. I'll put my 240hp SHO up against it if it's got all the functioning options my car came with from the factory, I highly doubt the 4.6 would win considering the power to weight ratio that's been beat to death, yet everyone seems to keep overlooking this fact. Naysayers unite, it still has NOT been done. 
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Feb 11 2006, 01:00 PM
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04 Motor + Contour Tranny + 99 Taurus = Trouble!!!  Group: Moderator Posts: 2,399 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 888 Chapter: Northeast Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1999 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec) |
I agree. By no means is bolting a subframe in anything special. But all the same, he is bold enough to spend the money to try somthing experemental. I encourage him to keep going and ask any questions. But im kinda confused why it is "absolutly amazing". Its very neat. but no actual work has yet been done. Like i said. Im not hating at this point. Theres alot of work ahead, and I wish hime the best! -Brad |
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Feb 11 2006, 01:01 PM
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The voices in my head don't like you Group: Select Supporter Posts: 6,465 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Tulsa,OK Member No.: 2,765 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 2000 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec) |
As far as eating crow there are a bunch of people that made rude statements,called the guy a liar, and all kinds of sarcasm.
This is the mans original post I know that I am going to sound like some troll here, but I have to say this now. I have a 1999 Ford Taurus with a 4.6 32v V8. And I didn't have to cut anything from the Taurus body for it to fit! If you all believe me, I will explain what I did and how I did it. Thanks! Oh, and how far will flex hose for radiators bend? Thank you! He never said anything about all the electronics functioning perfectly or it keeping cool or being a 10 second drag car. All he really claimed was that he had a Taurus with the V8 installed and was asking questions about the flex hoses. I expect that kind of crap from teenagers and people that have never fabricated anything in their life but some of the worst comments came from people that have been around here quite a while. Mike 
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Feb 11 2006, 01:06 PM
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The voices in my head don't like you Group: Select Supporter Posts: 6,465 Joined: 25-November 03 From: Tulsa,OK Member No.: 2,765 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 2000 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec) |
Brad You called Bullshit on the guy and flat told him he did not have a Taurus with a V8 in it. I know it means nothing but I feel you were wrong. And actually mounting that engine was quite feat in my opinion. You havent done it. Neither has anyone else here. It may never run right or he might be able to get it running great. I dont know what the future holds but he damn sure had to get it in there before the project could go farther Mike |
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Feb 11 2006, 01:10 PM
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Group: BANNED MEMBER Posts: 2,000 Joined: 18-December 04 From: N'awlins Louisiana Member No.: 5,296 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1997 Engine: 3.4 Yamaha V8 |
True, there were some rash comments made, but I think the general idea here is to produce a street legal vehicle, he has embarked on a Frankenstien like project that still needs the neck bolts and stitches installed. Until then all he has done was implanted an unlikely engine on an unforgiving chassis. I'm not a teenager nor an unexperienced DIY'er, I fix vehicles for a living, so I think I have a little bit of knowledge concerning this subject. Look back at the video posted of the Honduh with the blown big block, yeah anything can be done, but you notice that car won't pass any states certification for street legal use. Perhaps he should have stated this project as just what it is, an experiment instead of coming across like (see your all wrong, it can be done).
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Feb 11 2006, 01:16 PM
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Group: BANNED MEMBER Posts: 2,000 Joined: 18-December 04 From: N'awlins Louisiana Member No.: 5,296 Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1997 Engine: 3.4 Yamaha V8 |
Not really. You lower the vehicle onto the subframe after the engine is mounted, all you have to do is clear the body going down. |
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Feb 11 2006, 01:53 PM
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S.H.OH NO!! Group: Moderator Posts: 4,892 Joined: 31-October 02 From: Queens, NYC Member No.: 46 Chapter: Northeast Car: Ford Taurus Year: 1992 Engine: 3.2 Yamaha
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What are we in, friggin' kindergarten? Knock the shit off already.
 Lets see if can keep at least one or two threads on topic this month, and not turn it into a pissing match, how's that sound?
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Feb 11 2006, 02:35 PM
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... and who said girls can't be mechanics? Group: Gold Supporter Posts: 2,577 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Sheboygan, WI Member No.: 6,351 Chapter: Midwest Car: Ford Taurus Year: 2000 Engine: 3.0 DOHC (Duratec)
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I don't know, but I think that is totaly cool. I wish the guy best of luck, and once that thing is running, I woulld love to see dyno and track times.
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